Discussion:
Windows Mail Password
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csm
2007-10-07 20:19:00 UTC
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Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail account if
you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to get
the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).

Carl
Ronnie Vernon MVP
2007-10-07 21:55:55 UTC
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CSM

The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old indentities. Make
sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by csm
Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail account if
you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to get
the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
Carl
csm
2007-10-08 03:13:01 UTC
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So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.

As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and use
that rather than the Windows Mail?

I can't believe they took away the password feature!

Carl
Post by Ronnie Vernon MVP
CSM
The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old indentities. Make
sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by csm
Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail account if
you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to get
the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
Carl
Steve Riley [MSFT]
2007-10-08 04:05:03 UTC
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Don't think of it as removing a feature. Rather, we are reworking
applications so that all identity is tied to your user logon. Your email
files and contact information are stored in a folder that only you have
access to. Other user accounts on the system (with the exception of the
administrator) don't have access to those folders. So you are getting
equivalent protection, just without the unnecessary additional password
prompt.
--
Steve Riley
***@microsoft.com
http://blogs.technet.com/steriley
http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com
Post by csm
So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.
As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and use
that rather than the Windows Mail?
I can't believe they took away the password feature!
Carl
Post by Ronnie Vernon MVP
CSM
The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old indentities. Make
sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by csm
Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail
account
if
you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to get
the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
Carl
csm
2007-10-08 14:53:01 UTC
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I do use the user account login features, and I still think that you should
at least have the option for having a password for the email login. Just
having the user login is not enough. If you are logged into your user
account as you might be continually during the day, it is important that
there is an extra layer of security to emails, as they often contain
confidential information. Please review and add it back as an option. If
people want it, they can use it, if people are happy with not setting it,
then they can leave it open.

Is there a way I can load Outlook Express to replace the Windows Mail so
that I can get back this important feature?

Carl
Post by Steve Riley [MSFT]
Don't think of it as removing a feature. Rather, we are reworking
applications so that all identity is tied to your user logon. Your email
files and contact information are stored in a folder that only you have
access to. Other user accounts on the system (with the exception of the
administrator) don't have access to those folders. So you are getting
equivalent protection, just without the unnecessary additional password
prompt.
--
Steve Riley
http://blogs.technet.com/steriley
http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com
Post by csm
So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.
As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and use
that rather than the Windows Mail?
I can't believe they took away the password feature!
Carl
Post by Ronnie Vernon MVP
CSM
The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old indentities. Make
sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by csm
Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail
account
if
you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to get
the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
Carl
Ronnie Vernon MVP
2007-10-08 15:48:49 UTC
Permalink
Csm

You already have enough layers, don't you?

You have your user account login password to get into the system and you
also have the email account password. If you want to require a password in
Windows Mail, just leave the password blank in the your email account
configuration. This will force a prompt each time you want to check your
email. The only way anyone could possibly access your email files would be
if you logged on and then walked away from the computer and someone else sat
down to use the computer. If you have to leave while the computer is running
just press WINKEY+L to lock the system.

To answer your other question, you cannot use Outlook Express on Vista.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by csm
I do use the user account login features, and I still think that you should
at least have the option for having a password for the email login.
Just
having the user login is not enough. If you are logged into your user
account as you might be continually during the day, it is important that
there is an extra layer of security to emails, as they often contain
confidential information. Please review and add it back as an option.
If
people want it, they can use it, if people are happy with not setting it,
then they can leave it open.
Is there a way I can load Outlook Express to replace the Windows Mail so
that I can get back this important feature?
Carl
Post by Steve Riley [MSFT]
Don't think of it as removing a feature. Rather, we are reworking
applications so that all identity is tied to your user logon. Your email
files and contact information are stored in a folder that only you have
access to. Other user accounts on the system (with the exception of the
administrator) don't have access to those folders. So you are getting
equivalent protection, just without the unnecessary additional password
prompt.
--
Steve Riley
http://blogs.technet.com/steriley
http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com
Post by csm
So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.
As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and use
that rather than the Windows Mail?
I can't believe they took away the password feature!
Carl
Post by Ronnie Vernon MVP
CSM
The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old
indentities.
Make
sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by csm
Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail
account
if
you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password
to
get
the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
Carl
csm
2007-10-08 16:01:01 UTC
Permalink
It isn't the password for checking email (ie for the download) that is my
concern, it is the one for entering the OE application. I guess I can
lock the whole account like you noted, but I still think that any email
application should have password to enter it.

Carl
Post by Ronnie Vernon MVP
Csm
You already have enough layers, don't you?
You have your user account login password to get into the system and you
also have the email account password. If you want to require a password in
Windows Mail, just leave the password blank in the your email account
configuration. This will force a prompt each time you want to check your
email. The only way anyone could possibly access your email files would be
if you logged on and then walked away from the computer and someone else sat
down to use the computer. If you have to leave while the computer is running
just press WINKEY+L to lock the system.
To answer your other question, you cannot use Outlook Express on Vista.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Maureen
2007-11-02 14:51:00 UTC
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checking windows mail ...now getting pop up that asks for my user name and
password for admin account..then series of error messages related to internet
carrier. Please help! Happened after Omni pass was unistalled/reinstalled.
double icons disappeared for standard and admin accounts. Also, two seperate
accounts for user and admin set up with different passwords. Formerly, had
same password for both.
Post by Ronnie Vernon MVP
Csm
You already have enough layers, don't you?
You have your user account login password to get into the system and you
also have the email account password. If you want to require a password in
Windows Mail, just leave the password blank in the your email account
configuration. This will force a prompt each time you want to check your
email. The only way anyone could possibly access your email files would be
if you logged on and then walked away from the computer and someone else sat
down to use the computer. If you have to leave while the computer is running
just press WINKEY+L to lock the system.
To answer your other question, you cannot use Outlook Express on Vista.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by csm
I do use the user account login features, and I still think that you should
at least have the option for having a password for the email login.
Just
having the user login is not enough. If you are logged into your user
account as you might be continually during the day, it is important that
there is an extra layer of security to emails, as they often contain
confidential information. Please review and add it back as an option.
If
people want it, they can use it, if people are happy with not setting it,
then they can leave it open.
Is there a way I can load Outlook Express to replace the Windows Mail so
that I can get back this important feature?
Carl
Post by Steve Riley [MSFT]
Don't think of it as removing a feature. Rather, we are reworking
applications so that all identity is tied to your user logon. Your email
files and contact information are stored in a folder that only you have
access to. Other user accounts on the system (with the exception of the
administrator) don't have access to those folders. So you are getting
equivalent protection, just without the unnecessary additional password
prompt.
--
Steve Riley
http://blogs.technet.com/steriley
http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com
Post by csm
So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.
As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and use
that rather than the Windows Mail?
I can't believe they took away the password feature!
Carl
Post by Ronnie Vernon MVP
CSM
The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old
indentities.
Make
sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
--
Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User
Post by csm
Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail
account
if
you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password
to
get
the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
Carl
dannygallo
2008-06-24 01:13:32 UTC
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Hi Carl

What exactly is it that these guys don't understand. Do they actuall
work for Microsoft

Its plain and simple, we want a way to lock the email applicatio
itself, meaning that if somebody tried to open Windows Mail after it
closed, then it will prompt for a password - PLAIN AND SIMPLE

Why? Because you may want other users to use your profile, rather tha
switching profiles but have the added security that they can't go int
your email application and view emails, past and present

Its most ridiculous that they removed this feature, these guys don'
live in the real world

I look forward to the day they put this feature back on and star
realising that this is what people WANT!!

Regards and feeling your frustration too

Dann

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dannygallo
Nonny
2008-06-24 01:39:44 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:13:32 -0500, dannygallo
Hi Carl,
You are replying to a post from LAST OCTOBER.

That doesn't mark you as being one of the brightest bulbs in the
string.
What exactly is it that these guys don't understand. Do they actually
work for Microsoft?
Its plain and simple, we want a way to lock the email application
itself, meaning that if somebody tried to open Windows Mail after its
closed, then it will prompt for a password - PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
Why? Because you may want other users to use your profile, rather than
switching profiles but have the added security that they can't go into
your email application and view emails, past and present.
Its most ridiculous that they removed this feature, these guys don't
live in the real world.
I look forward to the day they put this feature back on and start
realising that this is what people WANT!!!
Regards and feeling your frustration too.
Danny
dannygallo
2008-06-24 08:46:13 UTC
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Hi Nonny

Considering that you have seen my post and that most people get email
when their posts are replied too, then that would suggest there was
possibility that someone would see it

I was fully aware of the dates, but as it allowed me to create a repl
then the post is therefore still ope

My post was referring to the fact that Carl had continiously explaine
what the problem was and these guys just didn't get it. A 5 yr ol
reading that could have figured it out and these guys are supposed t
work for Microsoft. Maybe you do and thats why you're so offended

Anyway, it has nothing to do with being a bright bulb, does it? Also
considering that you have time to go round being judgemental, then i
would help if you could actually gave some constructive feedback

Regard

Dann

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dannygallo
Nonny
2008-06-24 15:20:06 UTC
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:46:13 -0500, dannygallo
Hi Nonny,
Considering that you have seen my post and that most people get emails
when their posts are replied too, then that would suggest there was a
possibility that someone would see it.
I was fully aware of the dates, but as it allowed me to create a reply
then the post is therefore still open
My post was referring to the fact that Carl had continiously explained
what the problem was and these guys just didn't get it. A 5 yr old
reading that could have figured it out and these guys are supposed to
work for Microsoft. Maybe you do and thats why you're so offended.
Sorry bucko, but no one here works for Microsoft except for the very
FEW who add [MSFT] to their sigs.

Everyone else is just a user of MS products.
Anyway, it has nothing to do with being a bright bulb, does it? Also,
considering that you have time to go round being judgemental, then it
would help if you could actually gave some constructive feedback.
Regards
Danny
Mick Murphy
2008-06-24 20:21:01 UTC
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Untick to save password when you set it up/
Sooooooo Easyyyyyyy!
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Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
Hi Carl,
What exactly is it that these guys don't understand. Do they actually
work for Microsoft?
Its plain and simple, we want a way to lock the email application
itself, meaning that if somebody tried to open Windows Mail after its
closed, then it will prompt for a password - PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
Why? Because you may want other users to use your profile, rather than
switching profiles but have the added security that they can't go into
your email application and view emails, past and present.
Its most ridiculous that they removed this feature, these guys don't
live in the real world.
I look forward to the day they put this feature back on and start
realising that this is what people WANT!!!
Regards and feeling your frustration too.
Danny
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dannygallo
snowstark
2010-05-20 12:43:00 UTC
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I would just like to say that it is a little short sighted to tel
people to just leave the remember password box blank. I personally hav
4 emails attached my account all for different purposes with differen
people accessing them on different machines, so they have differen
passwords. for me to keep it secure on my machine i would have to sig
into each and every one when i logged on, not efficient. so just giv
people the damn password on application start. and yes i know this i
outdated i only posted because if was the first forum i found with th
problem because disagree also

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snowstark

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